Meeting Venue:
Committee room 3
Meeting date: Wednesday, 7 June 2023
Meeting time: 09.19 - 11.23
This meeting can
be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/13609
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Names |
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Members of the Senedd: |
Russell George MS (Chair) Rhun ap Iorwerth MS Gareth Davies MS Sarah Murphy MS Jack Sargeant MS Huw Irranca-Davies MS (In place of Joyce Watson MS) |
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Witnesses: |
Eluned Morgan MS, Minister for Health and Social Services Dafydd Evans, Welsh Government Nick Lambert, Welsh Government Leanne Roberts, Welsh Government Mari Williams, Welsh Government |
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Committee Staff: |
Helen Finlayson (Clerk) Claire Morris (Second Clerk) Rhiannon Williams (Deputy Clerk) Gareth Howells (Legal Adviser) Sam Mason (Legal Adviser) |
1 Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest
1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.
1.2 Apologies were received from Joyce Watson MS.
1.3 Huw Irranca-Davies MS substituted for Joyce Watson MS
2 Papers to note
2.1 Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.1 The Committee noted the letter.
2.2 Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the Finance Committee regarding the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.2 The Committee noted the letter.
2.3 Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee regarding the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.3 The Committee noted the letter.
2.4 Response from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the Committee's report on the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.4 The Committee noted the response.
2.5 Letter to UK Parliament Committees and Welsh MPs regarding the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.5 The Committee noted the letter.
2.6 Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding Stage 2 Welsh Government amendment to the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill
2.6 The Committee noted the letter.
3 Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 proceedings
In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:
Amendment 1 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Gareth Davies |
Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Russell George |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 1 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 2 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Gareth Davies |
Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Russell George |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 2 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 14 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 14 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 11 (Eluned Morgan)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Huw Irranca Davies |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Gareth Davies |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Russell George |
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Amendment 11 was agreed. |
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Amendment 3 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 3 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 4 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 4 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 5 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 5 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 6 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Gareth Davies |
Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Russell George |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 6 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 7 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Gareth Davies |
Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Russell George |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 7 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 8 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 8 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 15 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 15 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 16 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 16 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 17 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 17 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 18 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 18 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 19 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 19 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 20 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 20 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 21 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 21 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 22 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 22 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 23 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Gareth Davies |
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Russell George |
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Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 23 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 24 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 24 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 25 (Rhun ap Iorwerth) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)
Amendment 9 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Gareth Davies |
Rhun ap Iorwerth |
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Russell George |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Sarah Murphy |
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Jack Sargeant |
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Amendment 9 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 26 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 26 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 27 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 27 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 28 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 28 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 10 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 10 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 29 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 29 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 12 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 12 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 13 (Gareth Davies)
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In Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Rhun ap Iorwerth |
Huw Irranca Davies |
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Gareth Davies |
Sarah Murphy |
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Russell George |
Jack Sargeant |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 13 was not agreed. |
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